Karan Thapar 
The incredibly dramatic if also unbelievable shouting match between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office on Friday (February 28), has stunned the world.
In an interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, two highly regarded and well-informed former leading Indian diplomats speak about how they view the situation and what they see as the critical implications and consequences for Zelenskyy and Ukraine, Russia, Europe, Taiwan, USA and, of course, the rest of the world.
The first guest is India’s former Ambassador to Russia and former Deputy National Security Advisor, Pankaj Saran and the second guest in the interview is India’s former Ambassador to the United States, Meera Shankar.
The interview focuses on the larger implications and consequences of the shouting match between the two Presidents.